“38 minutes? [expletive deleted]!! who’s paying me to do this?”

“oh [expletive], this is [F’n] rdiculous… the time now is 11:27…
omg, how long is this g/d form… 27 pages long?
[sigh]… Last Name…”

we got our THIRD notice to complete the American Community Survey today, along with a very nice letter from Charles Louis Kincannon telling us that the “survey will help decide where new schools, hospitals, and fire stations are needed. The information also is used to develop programs to reduce traffic congestion, provide job training, and plan for the health care needs of the elderly.”

so what if we don’t think these are programs the government should be in charge of doing? or what if we don’t think

  • our income level,
  • the amount of our mortgage payment,
  • cost of gas and electricity,
  • if you attended college in the past 3 months,
  • your education level,
  • the current market value of our house,
  • the time of day we leave the house for work,
  • address where you work,
  • how much debt we have,
  • ethnicity (Canadian?),
  • how much “interest and dividends” earned,
  • age, and date of birth (I guess they can’t do math)
  • [] is any business of the government?

“does this other person [our 6 month old] speak a language other than english?”

“You are required by U.S. law to respond to this survey.” I think that’s what elicited the “38 minutes” question from my significant other (he he, those quotes above were her, not me). yeah, I refused to complete the survey on principle the first time we got it, and she’s doing it because she doesn’t want the government to keep hassling her.

good luck with that — if it isn’t this, they’ll find something else to hassle us about.

seriously, would you give all your personal information to this guy?

no email address, but I’d love to get a phone tree set up and hit him at (301) 763-3030 — 100 times a day, everyday, for the next year, to let him know what I think of his survey.

“only 22 minutes.  22 minutes I lost from my life”

looks like she owes the government 16 minutes.  I wonder how they’ll collect?



Filed under angry, rant, stupid government

5 responses to “overheard

  1. I am sure your income tax forms took that sixteen minutes and then some.
    Funny, though- I was on the census bureau website, and their entire justification for the household surveys seems not only lame, but completely redundant.

  2. I wanted to fill the form with lies, but research on the net indicated that each “purposefully inaccurate response” could be subject to a $500 fine.

    the thing that cracks me up is that Census sends you a letter a week or two before you get the actual form, telling you that you are going to get the form and basically “be a good citizen and fill it out promptly”, and “by the way, you’re legally required to do so”.

    then the actual form comes, and the from page says something about “Citizens are our greatest resource” — that’s when I flipped out — we are NOT the resources of the government (I even hate it when companies use this line; I’m not a resource of my company, like cash/capital or a computer or a pen). the government is constituted to serve the people, not the other way around. and that’s why the whole idea that this is enforced by law irks me so much.

    oh, oh, oh — maybe even more aggravating is that they try to explain how safe our data will be when we report it to them. the same government that looses untold amount of data every year — 27M veterans records last year, missing classified weapons data from Los Alamos, secrets sold to the Russians in the height of the Cold War — why am I supposed to believe that they are going to be able to keep this data under wraps? uh, nevermind that, you are required, by law, to give this information.

    I’m told that if you don’t send in the third form, they start to call you, and after that they send a census worker to your house for a personal interview.

  3. KP

    wow sounds a little like big brother…can they legally do that?

  4. “sounds a little like big brother” — dude, you’ve been asleep a long time, haven’t you?

    more about the ACS here (I couldn’t read the whole thing and can’t vouch for all the content, but you’ll get the idea): http://www.survivalarts.com/archives/001095.html

    official page at Census: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/

    U.S. Code Collection: “(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.
    (b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.
    (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body. ” – http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000221—-000-.html

  5. Not only is it legal, you too can get a job going door to door.
    My father got a part time job with them last time around. Paid for Christmas that year.

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